- ROAR Magazine
- February 4, 2018
After being captured by PKK guerrillas in the 1990s, a young Turkish soldier from a nationalist background turns into a pro-Kurdish peace activist.
This is an excerpt from an interview with Yannis Vasilis Yaylalı by Corporate Watch.
As a young Turk from a nationalist background, Yannis was eager to join the army and fight against the PKK in the 1990s. After just a few months, he was captured by the guerrillas, and spent two years in captivity. This experience completely changed his views and his life, and he now lives as a Kurdish solidarity activist on the border between Turkey and Iraq, and is a member of Conscientious Objectors Association.
Read the full interview here.
“In September, five or six months after I came to the military, I was captured by PKK guerrillas, close to here, 30-40 km away. Before that, thirty or forty of our soldiers were killed by the guerrillas during an army operation against the PKK. We were sent to help. We went on a three day operation to a mountain called Kale Mehmet to push out the guerrillas. 500 soldiers searched for them for two days. Rangers told us that there were guerrillas in a certain area but we didn’t really believe them. A small group of us went – twenty-five or twenty-six. We went to the top of the hill to get ready for a small battle and prepared with sandbags. It was dark and raining.
Then at around 6 or 7pm we heard bullets above us. The guerrillas were shooting. But not directly at us: they wanted us to go back. The guerrillas didn’t want to kill soldiers because the military would be glorified and the funeral would be a big occasion in the city. Nationalism would be fueled.
I got shot just above my knee. I ran and fell down with my backpack on in the dark. I fainted by a riverbank. I laid there for hours and hours. I couldn’t stand up, and my other leg was also injured.
Early in the morning I crossed the river and crawled to try to reach a burnt village. I was losing blood and needed food. I used a T-shirt to wrap around my leg. I ate margarine that had been left in the burnt village. I thought I would die, and I knew that there were guerrillas around. I had been told not to be captured alive. ‘They’ll skin you alive!’ I had been told, ‘don’t be captured alive.’ I kept one grenade for the guerrillas and one grenade to kill myself. I rested in a house. I heard someone and reached for my hand grenade, but it was a kitten who was also searching for food.
I left the burnt village and climbed up to a small cave. Whilst I was sleeping in the cave on the second day, a female guerrilla came. She was collecting fire wood. She tried to wake me up by shaking me. This was the first time I’d seen a woman guerrilla alive. I had often seen female dead guerrillas. I wanted to throw the hand grenade but I couldn’t reach it. She called the other guerrillas and they came. They told me to relax and they took my hand grenades away. They said: “We are Kurdish and we’re from the ARGK [now the HPG – the armed wing of the PKK]. You are a prisoner of war.” I waited to be killed and I imagined how they were going to kill me.
They lifted me up and helped me to walk. They took me to a small camp. The guerrillas were preparing a meal by the water, using the river bank. They had a fire but nobody could see them. Şerif Goyi came and said to me: “You’re a prisoner of war and we follow the Geneva convention.” In 1994 the PKK were practizing the Geneva Convention and a year later they signed up to it officially.
Şerif Goyi said: “When conditions are better we can help you to leave the country, and maybe you can go to Europe.” In Turkey, if a soldier is captured by the PKK, he would be seen as weak and he wouldn’t get help from the government.
The guerrillas used radios and stated: “We have captured İbrahim,” so that the Turkish soldiers could hear. This was so that the military knew that I hadn’t run away.
A couple of days later I was taken to a camp on a mule. There was a dead guerrilla, wrapped in a blanket, who was also being carried on another mule. When we came to the guerrilla camp, close to the border – between Roboski and Uludere – we found that the military were bombing. The guerrillas were quite calm but I was panicked. We crossed the border to south Kurdistan [Iraqi Kurdistan] and reached a guerrilla camp.
When we arrived, they put me in a cave the size of a room. I could walk a little outside, but not very far. They wanted to check whether I was a professional soldier or whether I was on compulsory service. Mustafa Karasu [Deputy Chairman of the PKK] came and told me: “You’re not a professional soldier.” He told me about the PKK, why they were defending themselves, and he explained that the state of Turkey was colonizing Kurdish land and assimilating the Kurdish people.”
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Source URL — https://roarmag.org/2016/05/18/corporate-watch-yannis-vasilis-interview/